44: Mormon Miscellanea

Brandt, Amy, Troy, and Heather assemble to discuss selected topics from their Mormon experience.



  1. John

    Orgazmo 2: Dark Chocolate and the Church’s Organ

    Reply Jul 10, 2013 @ 10:43:43
  2. John

    Also, when googling, I came across this link that suggests pretty much any church owned publication was known as “Official Organ of the Church” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latter_Day_Saint_periodicals

    So, in other words, the organ of the church is prolific and for sale.

    Reply Jul 10, 2013 @ 10:45:47
    • brandt

      The depth and breadth of the church’s organ is unmatched and unparalleled.

      Reply Jul 10, 2013 @ 11:05:39
  3. Anonymous Gym Rat

    Okay. I just have to offer a complaint. I listen to the podcast while I’m at the gym, and this morning while I was listening, there were 2-3 times when I started laughing hard enough that my arms lost strength and I nearly dropped weights on myself.

    I would like to point out that this is both dangerous AND against the rules of my gym. So please, please see to it that it doesn’t happen again. If I hurt myself, I won’t be able to keep trying to achieve my unrealistic ideal of gay male physique.

    That’s all I have to say. Keep up the otherwise good work.

    Reply Jul 13, 2013 @ 15:58:22
    • brandt

      this made everything worth it.

      i am so proud! :-)

      Reply Jul 15, 2013 @ 07:16:08
  4. Gail F. Bartholomew

    Great podcast once again. I would like to comment on the discussion about individuals with intellectual handicaps. The current term in vogue is developmental disabilities. Don’t worry it will change. I have a BS and MS in special education. I taught special ed for 10 years. I have worked with adults with developmental disabilities for nearly 10 years. I currently have been working in house with 8 adults that have lived together for between 20 and 30 years. I have known these people for over 7 years. These are my friends even family. My kids know them. I live in their home every four days. I work what is called a 24 hour shift. I love them.

    First of all this talk of how special they are and people with down’s syndrome all happier than other people is wrong headed and is offensive to me. Having a developmental disability is having weaknesses or limitations in specific areas. These ideas make these limitations the most important part of who people are. We all have weaknesses and limitations. I for one don’t want mine be my defining characteristic. I some time don’t even want people to know the. Limitations are never the thing that will tell you most about a person. People with developmental disabilities have as many diverse interests and personalities as anyone else. They also get crabby, bitchy, and loving as much as anyone else. They like as many different things as anyone else. Some of my clients want to go to all the new superhero movies as soon as they come out. One client that is in her fifties she loves movies with cute boys, she loved Magic Mike. One client loved spring breakers, laughing in all the right places.

    Secondly anyone or anything outside the norm that does not fit into Mormonisms clean clear theology the Brethren never want to go on a line and talk about. Either explaining it or talking about how to deal with it. This is why there is so much ambiguity surrounding baptism of people with developmental disabilities. This encourages less understanding as these people as people, and makes it necessary to create myths about this group of strikingly normal people. The way the brethren refuse to deal with many issues wanting them to go away dehumanises people all over the place. Individuals that don’t fit into the brethren’s binary idea of gender, ie people born with ambiuos genitelia. The list goes on. Families that don’t fit their mold. Mixed orientation marriages. Yes they proudly proclaim they do not encourage these marriages anymore, but they are very silent on what anyone in a mixed orientation marriage should do. The list goes on and on. Even not having any good answer about the cluster fuck for divorced women cancelling cellings. Pretending that there is not problems here dehumanizes all of these people.

    Reply Jul 17, 2013 @ 21:22:46
  5. Andy

    When I was a teenager, a woman joined the ward who had a son wiith severe mental disabilities. He couldn’t understand that Jesus and superman were not both real and would often use their names interchangeably. The missionaries baptized him even though his ability to understand the gospel was less than a five year old. I don’t remember if he was ordained to the priesthood, but he attended the priests quorum class. We did our best to include him, but he couldn’t understand the lessons and he often had difficulty participating in the other activities. I think the church should have done more to create lessons and activities tailored to his needs, but I don’t think he should have been baptized because he didn’t understand the meaning of the baptism or the covenants he was making.

    I personally think that eight year old is too young to baptize people. At that age, kids can’t understand sin and adults often explain it by comparison to disobeying parents. With the church’s extreme focus on sexual sins, I don’t think it is fair to commit children to obeying all the commandments when they don’t understand that in a few years they will instinctually want to violate several of the most serious commandments.

    Reply Nov 05, 2013 @ 04:56:47

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